Hi,
I’ve read your post and had to take some time to add anything to what was already written.
I think your man is a good person. He is set on moving on with you and that is really important. He is also appreciative of you and that is one of the most important groundwork components for developing a good relationship. You also appreciate him, so it’s mutual.
There are no absolutes in life and no guarantees, but having a sound base on which you are building your relationship is key to success.
I am sure it’s not always easy for you, because tbh, two years is not a long time.
It takes time to heal, it takes time to give yourself full permission to move forward.
I know that others in your situation have posted on here and I know their relationships, when treated with mutual understanding and respect and a lot of patience, have ended in marriage, or rather have grown closer over time. It didn’t come overnight.
No matter how in love people can be to begin with, in any situation, this could sometimes end up not turning into real love for each other that is vital to keep two people together through thick and thin.
My suggestion would be, that you keep on supporting him, but also supporting your relationship with him. What I mean is spending time with just the two of you in the mix, going places, doing things that make your new memories.
I remember my H when I met him. We would go out and he would have a remembrance moment and say things like, that’s what I used to do with my children (in his past marriage), remembering the good times he had experienced at one time. It did not feel good and I wasn’t exactly motivated to repeat those things and was looking for something that would be unique to us. Also he talked a lot about his past, the fun times which I was never a part of. That was a downer for me too, so at one point relatively early on, I told him so.
But I also caught myself telling him about going places that I especially loved, with my ex. And it was disappointing to him. We never went there again. To this day he sometimes mentions it, especially when I unintentionally mention an event I thought I spent with him, but it was actually with someone else. Yes, that happened too.
H is divorced and so am I, but there were times that we both remembered that were good.
Your situation in that sense is more delicate and I think you are being incredibly supportive and tolerant, but I also think there should be a boundary in regards to your relationship.
You shouldn’t be his replacement for his passed wife. You are you and do things differently, your way.
Make sure you show him your world too. He has been partly reliving his past and for now that’s ok, it’s soon. It’s soon in your relationship.
Go forward proud of who you are and don’t think for a moment you are second best and will never match his wife. Believe it or not, I was made to feel that way. She was a great cook, made excellent cakes, in the end I found out the reality was very different. H couldn’t face that his failed marriage was far from great. He actually idealized it. I could believe it. He made out they were two largely successful people, especially his exw.
I reality she is an ordinary woman with an ordinary job who was as nasty as they come. He couldn’t, wouldn’t admit it and in the end I was the one who took his rosy glasses off and faced him with the facts. A psychologist told him, he is sitting on two chairs and if he can’t leave his ex emotionally, he should be fair to me and divorce me. Can you imagine, 6 yrs after his divorce…
I think a big step forward will be made once he takes his ring off or buys you one. It’s symbolic of your connection, butnit might be a bit soon for that.
What I am trying to say is focus on building your unique relationship with him and don’t just be a supportive part. That will move him forward into something new.
If he won’t be able to move on, it is not because he is a poor widower, but just a person who is not able to move on, just like my H for so many years. He was emotionally cheating on me in a way. Not that he wanted to get back with her, but the guilt, the family life they had, the relationship after divorce was very chaotic and he was her backup. She expected him to never move on, she was, but when something needed to be done, she called him like a loyal dog, he came until I stopped it. Than all hell came loose. If she had only shown a little respect or tolerance for our relationship and me, I tried on my end, introduced myself, even invited her for a cup of coffee, she just went ballistic. She was so jealous and envious.
Divorced or widowed some men have issues moving forward and crazy things can happen, like giving too much influence to the ex wife dead or alive. My apologies for being so blunt.
I know you need a very different approach from where I was coming from, but living in a parallel relationship can really in time hurt the current relationship and trust me that happened to many of us.
It took us the first three to four years for him to finally start putting his past behind. I was very in love with him, I know he loved me too, but we went through ups and downs, him going away for weeks and returning to his old life. He felt guilty for leaving his ex, she made sure of it. The irony of all this is she divorced him, but it took years for him to get her out of his system.
Regardless of what she did (filed 5 lawsuits, one against my EDD-it almost killed me), he remains of the attitude that they need to be civil (even if she isn’t, or goes opposite and flirts with him). They have children together and to some extent I do understand.
It stopped hurting me and I stopped worrying about it, because it was breaking my heart. Once I experienced enough anguish, I just stopped asking, stopped encouraging any conversations about it, focused on our relationship that by than needed a lot of work that we haven’t done because we were fighting to survive the lawsuits.
A lot of groundwork went past us and we had a difficult marriage many times. But here we are still together, still working on it.
I realize that one key element that really matters is showing some love and kindness, even if one sided for a while. It spills over, but I am sure you are not holding back there.
That has proven to be quite key and standing my ground when I know I am right. Diplomacy helps.
You are in a way lucky to not have to deal with all that, but just pushing the idea his wife would have wanted him to find love and be happy again and saying it out loud, may also give him the push, the power and courage to move on.
It is different, but again not so different.
Some divorced men take a long time to get over their divorce regardless of how it was. They mourn their failed relationship and somehow linger on the memories and do as their exes tell them.
I am sure staying with his wife to the end was not easy on him.
My friend became a widower last year and it was incredibly difficult for him. His wife, our friend had a stroke, after she was declared cancer free, so it was a shock for all of us.
I recently spoke to him and frankly asked how he is doing and he said it’s easier now, not as painful. He is also trying to keep moving forward, going places and meeting up with friend and creating his solo life. Creating is the key word as I see it. He is not by far over her and never will forget the good times they had. But the memories are less painful. It’s been nine months now and I can tell it’s easier.
We went out for dinner last October and all we did was cry together. This time it was different, less painful.
Anyway I hope some of this helps, expect more of him starting a new chapter and still in the process of leaving things behind. But be sure to create your own unaffected, new moments with him. It’s important, that your whole relationship doesn’t just revolve around his sadness and his past.
What helps my friend is that people act normal around him. It makes life easier for him. It has hurt enough and I am sure he has evenings, moments when he is still with her in his mind. I am sure he will take more time before even thinking of moving on with someone else, but you never know. No marriage is perfect, but the memories are of the good times. There are no saints, keep that in mind, with all due respect to the passed.
I would be interested if you feel anything I have written makes sense.
Keep in touch and hold your head up, courageously moving forward.
You don’t need to be unsure of yourself. As you can tell, we all had to build ourselves up.
Once these issues are resolved, than the real work started in my case. We were focused on our lives, our differences and finding common ground. It felt like many of those things got blurred in all these emotions from the past. Start early, see who he really is with you. Is he fun, does he have the same interests, look for common ground and see where your relationship is going, regardless of him being a widower.
Showing too much support may drown you in his issues in the end and you deserve a full relationship.
When I got divorced and I was seeing another man, he told me that I am not ex Mrs…., I am Maya. Another male friend told me that if I cannot get back on my feet and keep thinking of what I lost, not even my friends will respect me.
They were well intended comments. They were trying to tell me to get back on my feet and it certainly got me thinking. The two both know my ex and one of them is still his friend to this day. But they cared enough about me to tell me the truth I needed to hear.
Of course that relationship didn’t work out, I was too unstable and affected by divorce, still.